Monday, 10 September 2012


You know what gets on my nerves? Rude people. Call me a hypocrite all you want, but I don't set out to be rude.
I recently had someone on a role play wiki delete my character page. When I asked them why they did that, they said it's their "policy" to delete pages if the person has been inactive for 25 days.
One- I have a wiki talk page. Try asking me before deleting
Two- Why was I not told this policy?
When I said I never heard of this policy, they pointed out that I had a big message on my talk page that had a link to the policies.
It was one of five pages. I had a look at them- THEY'RE BLOOMIN' LONG THEY ARE!
Do they expect me to spend about two hours reading almost useless information? I read the whole welcome page, it took an hour and a half, and it never once mentioned that if I don't do anything for 25 days I'll get my stuff deleted.
That's not the bit that got on my nerves though. This was
"... so if you didn't bother to read them, that's not my problem."
The simple rudeness of this sentence makes me so angry. There's no need for it. Just point out that the pages were there. But f***, that is just plain rude.
Oh, and FYI, it is your problem, you take care of these things, you’re an moderator or whatever, you deleted my page. IT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
Also, on the forums. I got into a discussion about the rules of Necromancy. Everyone was saying that you could do it without your objects, and the objects were just to help.
I haven't got a problem with that. I disagree, and use a few quotes from the books to help prove my point.
Then these people all but calls me an idiot.
I said that it was never stated that Necromancers don't need objects. I also said Skulduggery said himself that they need objects.
One of the guys said Skulduggery wasn't even a master of his discipline (Elemental magic), let alone Necromancy. He also said what about Serpine? He doesn't use an object.
I said Skulduggery was a master of Elemental magic. He was the only one who could fly, use earth for something other than statue mode and Val said it was the first time she had seen streams of fire used that way when she saw Skulduggery use it in DD. And I said he was the Death Bringer, he should know about Necromancy.
I also say Serpine is an irregular case, like Melancholia. Serpine wasn't originally a Necromancer, he learnt the red hand technique when he took over a temple.
Then this other guy says that Skulduggery isn't a master, he might not be the only one who can fly, he isn't the Death Bringer, and called my argument flawed.
I then said the only one we've seen from the books fly, and Vile was the Death Bringer, which is very similar.
He then asked when he said that.
Dark Days, page 110 (my copy)
"You'll need to master everything else about Elemental magic first, but yes. If we live through this, and if you continue your training, and if you're real, then yes, I'll tech you to fly. I'll teach every Elemental to fly. It's fun."
And it mentions in Dark Days, Mortal Coil and Death Bringer that Vile was the Death Bringer. I also said a spoiler for KOTW which I won't include here. And one final quote: Death Bringer, page 515
"Well, I should. I was the Death Bringer before you were even born."
He then said Skulduggery was joking about being the Death Bringer. And that the Necromancer's confirmed this.
He then said it was a joke, completely ignoring me, and that the Necromancer's confirmed it multiple times. And he said that if Vile was the Death Bringer, would the Necromancer's just let him go.
I said I think they wouldn't have a choice. Lord Vile could kill them all. Maybe a few even tried to stop him, and he killed them
I've never found anything saying it was a joke
"Well, I should. I was the Death Bringer before you were even born."
When Melancholia says she doesn't get the joke, Skulduggery says it's not a joke, he was Lord Vile.
Then the first guy said that compared to Mevolent, Skulduggery was nothing, so he couldn't be a master.
Then first guy this guy agreed that Vile was the Death Bringer, but he said that didn't necessarily mean he knew all about Necromancy.
I missed a bit. He said before that Necromancers had to be able to use Necromancy without magic. How would they start then? I said maybe that it was known but unable to use until one day someone found a way to use it by putting the power in objects.
To this he said
But my arguments make a hell of a lot more sense then an entire magic discipline was created so that people could store the power of death and shadows inside items and go 'round looking cool.'
To my Serpine being an irregular case argument
He is an irregular case, but we can't throw away data because it does not fit our other pieces of information.
All Necromancy power needs to be stored in something, or none of it does.
You cannot use both arguments.
Either Serpine is able to ignore an item and just pour out pure death through his hand, wild and powerful and without finesse, or they all need to put their power somewhere, he chose his own body and the raw power stripped the skin from his flesh.
I said the just because Mevolent was more powerful doesn't mean everyone weaker than him isn't a master.
I also said that I never said Necromancers put their power in objects to look cool. I said I think that they couldn't use it before they found out to put it in objects. I said it was my opinion.
To his Serpine argument
And we can't ignore the majority of data because there is one piece that may not agree with it
There are exceptions to everything. Serpine wasn't originally a Necromancer, so his ability was always going to differ from the others. He learned a Necromancy technique after the surge. It should be impossible, so it makes sense that it won't turn out like the majority
The second guy said that now I'm ignoring evidence, that I just shot myself in the foot.
I asked what evidence I was ignoring
The first guy said
Nefarian Serpine
"I haven't used this power in years. When I first learned it, I thought it was a wonderful thing..."
Learned. Not gained. Not obtained. Learned.
Also, pretty sure the High Priest says he is the one who taught Serpine that power.
A Master.
Knowing everything and having full control.
"To acquire complete knowledge or skill in."
Mevolent has shown abilities that have not even been remotely demonstrated by Skulduggery.
If he can do something, and others cannot, he is the master. His knowledge and power is superior. He is a true master of the Elements. Skulduggery is good. Skulduggery is very good, but he is not a master.
He also said
No, you didn't say it looked cool, I am aware of that. I just chucked that in.
It doesn't make sense for them to be unable to use magic without an item. Not one bit. Otherwise the discipline would never have arose in the first place.
Being an Adept is not about the one Discipline.
Serpine's Assassin, book 1. He had his immune to fire trick.
Tanith Low, manipulates gravity to walk on walls/ceilings and can also pick locks and seal doors.
Skulduggery says that "An Adept could have so many tricks up his sleeve, so many different abilities, that he could prove himself stronger than even the most powerful Elemental."
Some Disciplines are all or nothing, like Teleportation. Others can have small tricks adapted from and toyed with. Serpine chose to be an ADEPT after his Surge, not an Elemental. It is one or the other. As an Adept, he can learn as much as he wants about Adept magic.
Then the second guy said I was ignoring the evidence that Vile was the Death Bringer, as stated.
When I asked him when it was stated, he just said it was stated several times and refused to answer any more.
This is when I left. It was my opinion, I was stating it. Then they try to prove me wrong without even using proper evidence. I don't mind difference of opinion. I do mind when people are rude about it.
I read it after (though never commented)
The second guy's opinion this is how Necromancers got their power or something
Right, a bunch of weaker ones got sick of getting kicked around by the higher ups. They see this rebellion and they go: 'Whelp, we got Askadlkjadskl all to do.' So they join in. The strongest of these was known as the 'Death Bringer', and was relativity powerful. Eventually, they get cornered in a place of magic. Sensing their impending doom, DB decides to give the Ancients one last helping hand.
He gave them his power.
And there comes Necromancy. Like one of you said, it was uncontrollable. So the stick it in stuff, and boom, fully fledged Necromancy. They begun to worship a 'Death Bringer', saying he will rise again and all that good stuff. But it got changed as the years went past, so that's how the modern day ones happened.
The first guy wasn't too bad. He still annoyed me, but not as much as the second guy.
I swear, rude people are everywhere.
On Pewdiepie's Slender game once, I heard a rumour that Slender wouldn't catch you if backed away without looking away. To this, someone replied
"You f***ing c*** brained idiot. That doesn't work you retard. Just f*** off you p****.
This is why I hate people. This is just my post on rude people on the internet. Don't even get me started on rude people in my life.
If you'd like, please put your opinion on Necromancy rules in the comments. I'd love to hear them, as long as you aren't rude.
People have no manners. That's the simple truth.
If I offend any of you, I'm sorry, it's unintentional.
I'm going to try and be more active in my rants.
To end this off, I'd like you to think of this. Would it hurt to use some common courtesy to the people around us?


  1. Wow Nix. That sounds like it was a full on argument.
    I know what you mean. Some people just don't give a sh*t about the sort of impression they make. It's actually kind of sad when I think about it. They're such idiots.

    I think they do need objects. I think it's too much raw power so they have to channel it into an object in order for it not to be a danger to themselves. It's like trying to fire a bullet by hand compared to putting it into a gun.

    I know this is kind of off track but have you played Slender? It's not that scary! I for one am disappointed. Anyway I know how you feel. Don't let it get you down!

    1. I don't get you people who don't get freaked out! My friend Yvonne didn't find it scary, but then, she was drunk on her first energy drink... :P

  2. "People = Sh*t"
    "impending doom"

    Had to mention those things.

    I agree fully with you...As far as I'd known and read, Necromancy needs to be channeled through an object. Skulduggery said that himself, actually, in...Dark Days? Can't remember, but they were talking about that Inhabiting Adept Discipline, about how that was how Vengeous was able to use Vile's amour in Playing With Fire. Then he made a reference to Necromancy about it being such a bad discipline, because you have such an unstable amount of magic that it has to be stored in an object to work it right.
    He also said that was a disadvantage. You can't use your Necromancy magic without having the object.

    Serpine and Melancholia are, of course, an exemption.

    Multiple examples as well. Skulduggery never used Necromancy unless he had his amour. Valkyrie was unable to use Necromancy when she didn't have her ring. Tenebrae couldn't use magic against that Ogre without his Dagger in the War (said in Death Bringer).
    You're right, I think.

    Oh, yes, those idiots on Youtube are common.

  3. My way of looking at it:

    Necromancy is like electricity. You use energy (magic) to channel through a generator (necromancer object) which comes out as electricity (necromancy shadows)


    If they keep spitting crap at you, Nix, just give up. You're way above them. I think I saw this quote on the Internet, from someone I've never heard of:

    "Never argue with idiots. They'll just bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

    Theyre just the kind of people who've realized they're wrong halfway through, but are too proud to admit it so they try forcing you into retreat with a stupid rage.

    It's pretty dumb, but I've seen it before. And YouTube bullies...they're just really special :D

  4. Ugh. Thats why I hate the internet, and only have this blog. In real life, if a person is rude to me, I can at least give it my all in kicking his sorry ass. But over a webpage, what can I do? repeatedly insult a troll? It just doesnt work...

    I think Necromancy is literally the control of the darkness in this world. Death powers this ability. With this ability, you can fashion and cast darkness, invite it inside of you and move along the shadows (teleport), and extract energy out of the cold dead bodies of the deceased.

    All in all: Idiots on the web should all be flogged 40 lashes, and Necromancy is possibly the coolest and most limited power ever...

  5. That's ridiculous. it sounds like these people didn't even READ the books. Melancholia says it various times, Skulduggery says it, Wreath says it, Tenebrae says it, etc. And Serpine's red right hand is not Necromancy, it is a Necromancy TECHNIQUE.

    As for the idiot who said that on YouTube...

  6. What a load of balls!!! Whoever the Hell that guy is, he sucks.